Chapter 26 – Sam Russell’s ‘Open Mind Forum’ program

(Note: Some of the spellings of the names mentioned in the interview were transcribed phonetically from the tape.

Actual spellings of these names which are identified as such may be different than they appear in the transcript, due perhaps in part to Mr. Terziski’s Bulgarian accent):

SAM RUSSELL – …I guess a place to start here, the Germans during World War II evidently had what was called the ‘Foo Fighter‘, and this I guess is the name that the allied pilots gave to this curious-looking thing that would bob and weave and run around through the squadrons as they were flying over Germany to bomb and so on.

VLADIMIR TERZISKI – Exactly, the Foo Fighter, the ‘fiery’ ball. ‘Foo‘ is ‘fire’ in French, it’s also wind in Japanese… By the way Renato Vesco, who was the Italian [counterpart of] Wernher von Braun, the research scientist in charge of the ITALIAN Air Force and Space Research and Development program during the war, in his highly suppressed book in this country — which is also available through our Academy — ‘INTERCEPT BUT DON’T SHOOT‘, talks about the whole family of turbojet saucers that were built by the Germans, all the way up to the Foo Fighter, the KUGELBLITZ and the FEUERBALL, two different models of basically the same device. And he also mentions a lot of ATTACKS of these machines on enemy bomber formations with DEVASTATING results for the bombers.

Some of the Foo Fighters were doing 2900 kilometers an hour and up… a bomber would do maybe 300, 400, 500 at the most… so we’re talking about 6, 7, 8 times the bomber speed. The most interesting thing that has not come up into, let’s say, the work of Renato Vesco [because he talks only about the turbo-jet family of saucers… basically very simple saucers made with piston engines with propellers, spinning the lenticular airframe, the lens-shaped air frame of the craft thus creating gyroscopic antigravity — and some of them were hybrids between helicopters with spinning rotor, basically aerodynamic lift and the gyroscopic lift of the spinning heavy mass of rotary engines. I wouldn’t be amazed [if] the rotary engine itself were created to power a gyroscopically spinning saucer that had a big helicopter propeller on top, so it’s kind of a hybrid between a helicopter and a saucer]…

I even discovered…extremely rare drawings by the genius of German aviation, Lipish, the guy who built the first supersonic glider in the ’30s and it is not Chuck Yeager who broke the sound barrier, but probably the Germans 10 years earlier with their… supersonic gliders that Lipish built. Anyway, Lipish was designing at the end of the war a supersonic ram-jet propulsion craft with anti-gravity assists. They had the fuel tanks spinning inside the jets…going through the engine part of the object to the engine duct, spinning the fuel around thus creating additional anti-gravity lift and greatly improving the lift capabilities and the inertial responses of the craft. So to sum it up in a nutshell, I have…several very brilliant videos with dozens of photographs and engineering drawings, sketches and so on.

The Germans had PROBABLY 50 MODELS of flying saucers powered by every existing engine in their arsenal… piston engines with propellers, rotary…engines with propellers, inboard and outboard turbo-jets, pulse (?) jets, ram-jets and rocket engines. The rocket-engined craft… could go into orbit, the bigger models could go to the moon and back with literally a truckload of kerosene and oxygen.

On top of the saucer space flights the Germans had [an] extensive space program with rocketry. I discovered just several days ago the man-made winged version of the V-2 rocket… was doing sub-orbital flights with an altitude higher than the altitude of the Mercury, the Vostock, space capsules. They had space programs with their Zanger-Brent stratospheric ram-jet…bomber… antipodal, basically circling three quarters of the globe trajectory… That was the grandfather of the Aurora craft that is rumored so much these days in Area 51.

(Take note that both the American and Russian space programs depended on the German scientists they had both acquired following World War II. It is possible that these researchers were intentionally made-out to be the ‘cream’ of German aerospace science, when in fact the most intelligent scientists may have found their way to the Antarctic base following World War II – Branton).

The aircraft industries of the Allies after the war had a difficult time duplicating and regurgitating the German designs that the Germans came up with…

S.R. – Wow! That’s amazing…

V.T. – Many of these things have not been duplicated yet, but the most astonishing photographs came — and I have copies of these and they are available — from the GERMAN SECRET SOCIETY ‘Tuligezelshaft‘ and the ‘Templehofgezelshaft‘, the German branch of the KNIGHTS TEMPLARS which are also the INTERNATIONAL BANKERS so they have absolutely no problems financing these projects. Few of the (–indistinguishable– lower-ranking German scientists…? – Branton) even knew that these projects were running. Many of them privately had been complaining that they were the dumbest fools because all the smart guys disappeared after the war into the German South Polar underground colony, and only basically the intelligent weaklings [remained in Germany]…

We made a brilliant audio-tape, by the way all of these things that we will be talking about are available in two dozen very good video tapes and about as many audio tapes.

S.R. – We will have to be sure and tell the folks how they can find out how to get a hold of those, O.K.?

V.T. – It’s very simple, they can call us here in Los Angeles at area code [310]-473-9717…

S.R. – …I’d like to ask a question about your knowledge of the Russian technologies. It is said that the Russians are really a lot farther ahead than we are… V.T. – Not at all…

S.R. – Technologically.

V.T. – My feeling is that not only the French Revolution and the Paris Commune and the Communism of Marx and Engels was financed and masterminded and orchestrated by the [Bavarian] Illuminati, but so was the Bolshevik Revolution, the Nazi uprising in Italy, or the National Socialist and Nazi movement in Germany.

And along that line, Wall Street has secretly been going to painstaking efforts to help behind-the-scenes the Russians in order for them to become a real strong external enemy and not to be just a ‘paper bear‘, a flimsy paper bear. I have numerous accounts of how the Germans built all the munitions plants, 14 out of 15 munitions plants BEFORE the war started, the Second World War started. They were all built by Germans… Rolls Royce built the turbo-jet factory for the MIG fighter plane engines, just in time for the beginning of the Korean war. I have a photograph in my possession of the best (at the time? – Branton) American strategic bomber, the B-29, the one that dropped the bomb over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Under it’s wing there is hanging the best German twin-engine rocket interceptor, supersonic swept-wing rocket interceptor the DFS-346, and all of this under the red star markings of the Russian Air Force. How can somebody claim that there is not a secret siphoning of the most advanced technology behind-the-scenes… of the Cold War in order to make Russia the real enemy. I’ve heard rumors that the Russians were given enriched uranium to build their first nuclear bomb, and when they couldn’t do even that they were given a whole nuclear bomb that was smuggled out in the luggage of the Russian ambassador straight on a flight from Washington to Moscow according to the words of Victor Suvaro, the genius of the Russian Intelligence novels.

And basically those are documentary books that he has written. The best of them is ‘AQUARIUM‘, for any one of our listeners who would like to acquaint himself with the workings of a secret society. Later on the Russians were sold a nuclear submarine in order to make their sagging strategic fleet a more real, threatening menace. Why would the [Bavarian] Illuminati need a strong enemy in the Russias? Very simple, because otherwise they cannot keep the secrecy around these giant underground projects going on. Now the best reason they use is ‘Oh well, we cannot tell you about that, we cannot discuss this even in Congress because the Russians would know.’

It was cleverly used on both sides of the ‘curtain‘ in order for the [Bavarian] secret societies in both Russia and the United States to quietly engage in — and justify the massive financing of — these projects. Back to the Germans, the most interesting claim that they are [making] in another documentary film… available from us, is that they landed on Mars in mid-January 1946 after 8 months of heavy flight with a basically volunteer suicide crew of Germans and Japanese in a giant 230 foot diameter dreadnaught… again running on free energy, basically the Hanz-Kohler converters of gravity energy into electromagnetic energy of the flight.

Another interesting thing that I found is a whole range of mind control experiments in Germany that were repeated verbatim by the super powers after the war. Mind control with ultrasound, when they were inducing and indoctrinating their crack S.S. troops, mind control with all kinds of synthetic hallucinogenic drugs, or all kinds of the ‘proper’ mushrooms, mind control that was developed using the Wilhelm Reichian technology. In the initial states this [involved] types of sodomic mind control that was practiced by certain of the Ahrimanic and Luciferian orders of Tibetan monks that were visited by these numerous German ethnographic expeditions in the ’20s and ’30s, and all of this secret knowledge was later brought to Germany.

We produce a fascinating tape here with Al Bielek and T. Johnson from Las Vegas on the magical-occult connections of the Third Reich, and we called the tape ‘OCCULT NATIONAL SHAMANISM‘ in analogy to ‘National Socialism’, a fascinating tape that basically brings together about a dozen extremely rare books on the occult connections of the Third Reich, the dabblings with satanism, with witchcraft, with all kinds of unspeakable aberrations, including sexual aberrations… the Germans were in contact with half a dozen [malevolent] alien races in these big underground establishments, some of these underground bases were 2 kilometers long, one kilometer wide.

I have found the drawings of the tunnel systems with these bases from incredible places including…the American Bombing Survey reports of underground — huge industrial establishments under the German mountains… the bottom line is that by the time the war ended the Germans were VERY HEAVILY doing all these major parts of the ILLUMINATI secret technologies on the planet…

(Were the Nazi’s the Military Research & Development arm of the Bavarian Illuminati? – Branton)

Mind Control technologies, a whole dozen of mind-control… I mean we have a tape here on mind control that was going on in the German bases. But the most important thing about their research was GENETIC ENGINEERING…

Quite a well-known movie producer in southern California that produced one of the best known UFO documentaries that won a big award has mentioned to me in a private conversation that while researching for that film he saw in a military-government archive a documentary, a silent documentary film about horrific genetic experiments on live human beings, I mean cutting off heads, dismembering, re-assembling, human bodies from parts — all these frankensteinian experiments in the German genetic program… and finally the film culminated with footage of living, walking, breathing HYBRIDS between HUMANS and ANIMALS that were produced in German concentration camps half a century earlier.

The Reife [spl?] microscope, the Royal Reife microscope which is rumored to be a Tesla scalar-wave microscope that has an extremely…high resolution power and can see many levels of complexity beyond the hierarchical level of the cell, was probably the magical key to the human genome kingdom, the microscope was discovered in the ’20s in Berlin and probably gave the key to the Germans to the human genome. The big 10 billion dollar human genome project that is right now beginning to drain budget dollars run through the Dept. of Energy here, is nothing but a smokescreen for the REAL mastery of the human genome half a century earlier by the Illuminati that are running computerized designs of clones and human beings and all that stuff in the underground labs.

(Note: Bavarian cultists and Grey aliens are reportedly working together in the production of so-called ‘hybrids’ within the underground joint-operational facilities. Most of the hu-brids [human-hybrids] who are born with imputed reptilian DNA or DNA from other animals are the unwilling servants of the draconian collectivists from birth. Some of these ‘people’ have escaped from the domination of the Collective and have joined with more friendly ‘Federation’ forces, or have been rescued by the same from captured bases or ships, according to contactee Alex Collier, and others. – Branton)

S.R. – Hmm.

V.T. – I take very seriously films, not only films like ‘BOYS FROM BRAZIL‘ about the secret experiments in ‘education’ of abducted children… the [secret] government has been the biggest consumer of abducted children in this country, and I called just on a hunch this Milk Carton 1-800 number, chasing a rumor that 400,000 CHILDREN were missing from this country each year, [close to] half a million each year. I thought ‘Nah, maybe 20, 30 thousand, it’s not possible.’ And the lady there said… ‘No, we don’t have ANY statistics.’ ‘Well, any newspaper articles, anything?’ ‘No, no, we DON’T have anything.’ And I was beginning to get more and more suspicious.

Finally she made an ‘educated’ guess, having worked for 5 years in the system. She said, ‘About maybe 200,000 children a year or so.’ Within only 5 minutes…research I did, I got half of the wildest rumor that I’ve heard of, half a million missing every year. Most of them disappear in the underground…of the New World Order…

(STATION BREAK)…

S.R. – Vladimir Terziski. He is a UFO researcher. He is a co-founder with Al Bielek of the ‘American Academy of Dissident Scientists’. [Sam Russell takes a call at this point. The question is in regards to Vladimir’s professional background]

V.T. – Well, I studied Physics and Engineering at Tokai University in Tokyo, I have a Bachelor Degree in Physics, and a Master Degree in Electronics Engineering. I worked for four years at the Solar Energy Research Institute for the Bulgarian Academy of Science before immigrating to the United States. I studied for 3 and a half, 4 years, Sociology at Arizona State University, and at UCLA, and I’m slowly dragging this additional Degree of mine to a completion these days…

S.R. – …Well, O.K., let us move along and pick up on what you were talking about as we broke right there. This having to do with the genetic cloning and so on.

V.T. – I have two more items, basically very important items to finish and then we can go into the general discussions. To cap off the whole genetic research effort on the planet, it is not an idea of a few crazy frankensteinian scientists here and there in the secret underground bases, it is not a crazy idea by the secret government or even by some high levels of alien races that are using us as convenient guinea pigs… It is a much higher level of ‘party line’ agenda coming, my feeling is, from the… basically the fallen angelic presence on our planet that has been masterminding [the conspiracy]… probably 90% of the alien races that have visited our planet…most of them have been coming here on the planet sub-contracting for that particular branch of the ‘celestial management’ and the biggest point on their agenda is… on top of advanced interstellar TRANSPORTATION and COMMUNICATION have been — the creation of life (or rather the RE-CREATION or re-arrangement of existing biological matter, since created beings whether standing or fallen can only RE-STRUCTURE that what has already been created. – Branton), and MIND CONTROL of course. [These] have been the four extremely important points, the highest points on their agenda. So the ‘creation‘ of all of these frankensteinian monsters is not an aberration of a sick mind or probably a latent satanist movie producer.

It is not a whim by some Financier that is financing these projects… it is really an incredible saga on a Universal or Galactic level… these hierarchies that are trying to outdo and outbid each other and trying to prove to probably higher levels of celestial overseeing bodies that they can do a better management and a better ‘creation’ of this and that including living beings.

So I put the whole creation of artificial life from the crude mechanical robots created by the Illuminatial chemists [alchemists] in the medieval centuries to the frankensteinian conglomeration of human beings from…body parts in the late 19th century, and the first creation of primitive clones in the early 20th century through the limited experiments of hybridization between humans and animals that were going [on] in German concentration camps during the war.

And… the biggest effort that was in front of the German hierarchy was the creation of the ‘Master Race’, the ‘super men’. And what they did on a small scale in the concentration camps, later on in the late ’40s and early ’50s they did on A TEN TIMES BIGGER SCALE IN THEIR SOUTH POLAR COLONY. The rumor is that these days there is a city called the NEW BERLIN, a big underground city under the South Pole, south of South Africa in the Queen Maud land… under the GERMAN jurisdiction, under the German nomenclature.

A 2,000,000 strong colony that engages primarily in space travel and human genetic engineering. And basically, a very careful analysis of the German technology — and I repeat I am not a religious freak, I entered into conspiracy theories only because of necessity, to figure out the anti-gravity stuff that I was interested in. I’m primarily a physicist and an engineer, and I’m fascinated a lot more by an explanation of the physics of the local universe or of the energy management system in our Grand Universe than of, should we say, standing or fallen angelic management structures around our planet — but tracing the technologies, I have come to piece the big puzzle, this big galactic and universal puzzle together…

S.R. – …We are just virtually out of time. Vladimir, we’ve had some questions off the air regarding what you might have available to send people in the written format or in electronic.

V.T. – I have a video list of probably 50 publications, videos, audios, booklets, articles and so on. Anyone who is interested can give us a call at area code [310] 473-9717. And I will be soon in one of the bookstores in Salt Lake City, I actually sent a lot of material that was exhibited at the Preparedness [Expo] Show.

S.R. – We have to leave it there, Vladimir I appreciate very much your coming on, I know the notice was very short and I appreciate it. It’s been a fascinating hour for me, I hope for our listeners as well, and I’ll hope to do it again some time.

V.T. – Sam, with the greatest of pleasure. I repeat again, this was only a ‘little revelation’ of the working of the dark side… one should not be pessimistic, on the contrary just by shining the light on these ugly deeds of the Illuminati, that’s all there needs to be done in order for them to start melting like an old snow under the hot summer rays…

S.R. – Thank you very much Vladimir, a terrific way to end it… (Note: Vladimir Terziski is “…a Bulgarian born engineer and physicist, graduated Cum Laude from the Master of Science program of Tokai University in Tokyo in 1980. Served as a solar energy researcher, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, before immigrating to the U.S. in 1984. [He is also an] International UFO researcher with command of English, Japanese, Russian, German, and Bulgarian [and] Creator/lecturer of UFOLOGY-101 course for University level attendance. – Branton)

With the previous foundation laid, I feel that this would be an appropriate place to include the following information which has made the rounds of the electronic newsgroups: