So are any of you going to try and explain the fact that the area is approximately 3960 feet above sea level yet maintains its water level?
John Lear responds :   “I would speculate that there are elevators that go down 3960 feet to the level of the sea. Elevators that go far deeper have been reported around the Edwards Air Force Base area, the Nevada Test Site and Dulce so it is certainly not a technical issue. Thanks for the post.”

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WOW! Antar you just blew my mind! Yes. Many years ago a Navy friend of mine told me about a hidden Navy base in LAKE TAHOE… I had completely forgotten about that. He also told me about the “TUBES”, the Navy underground transportation system. He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called “tubemoles”. Thanks for the memory jog!

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Post by PWEAGLE :

  I remember going to the Grand Canyon caverns last year and they said it ran some 20 mile to Grand Canyon the Colorado. I sure there are many cavities dotting the desert floor, possibly leading to one another in a vast wedding of underground channels.
I just can’t help to think that there all connected.
I’m here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. Driving on interstate 40 I can’t help but wonder how many undiscovered holes there are in the desert. There Mitchell’s caverns but those are small but whose to say that a little bit of dynamite couldn’t open it up to something even bigger. Its a big desert with many possibilities.I wouldn’t dough the possibility of 200 mile+ underground river and channels.
Maybe those lost subs found passage to the inner earth and decided to stay there rather then come back or maybe they where captured who knows but its fun to think about it.Time to Google map some of these places and see if there’s any strange things going on. Thanks john

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 I’ve heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/

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Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1

  I’m proud to show you a very cool sign of one of the biggest underground
bases that you ever seen before.
I searched the forum before and there was no match for it. If so, then sry
for posting.I found a sign with Google Earth for a very huge underground base that could have the size of about 12 x 6 kilometers in the north of the
China Lake Naval Weapons base.There is a earthquake-pattern of which the most occured in the year
1982/83. I really think they where underground detonations for
creating a huge underground installation.

GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg

 the coordinates are 35-41’6.16″N – 117-41’35.12″W
at the China Lake Naval Base. The earthquake pattern is directly in the
upper left beneath the base.
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Well, it looks like there may be something to it after all.

Navy Sets Up New Facility For Tunnel-Warfare Training : http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm

Using the abandoned mines at China Lake, U.S. units can learn how to operate in such environments, Manofsky said.

“Anybody doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan should be coming to China Lake,” he said. “We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like you’ll find over there. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.”

Three of the tunnel locations are fully instrumented with weather stations and environmental sensing equipment inside and outside. “Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep,” Manofsky said. The tunnels are so spread out that the job takes a full day. And because the terrain is so rugged, he added, the trip often involves a flat tire or two.

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reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar
Mr. Lear
Don’t know if this is relevant or not…..” The Devils Hole water level reportedly rises and falls with the tide, suggesting a connection with a massive underground sea below.” I know people have disappeared while exploring Devil’s Hole. Never to be found. Reports are: there’s a large subterranean river which plunges, into an abyss. Wonder’s how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? We plan on going to Devils Hole when the weather gets a little cooler. I’ll try and get some good photo’s. If we run across a Park Ranger maybe he/she will answer a few questions or Not
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John Lear : I know that there was a secret NAVY base at Lake Tahoe, at least there was in 1983. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. Maybe there is a similar facility at Pyramid Lake. There is definately one at Walker Lake. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an ‘underground ocean’ its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is ‘above water’ so to speak) to travel around.

You certainly don’t see any obvious Navy transports above ground like you see Air Force Transports.

NOTE (clarification) : “I believe the secret Navy Base at Lake Tahoe exists because a Navy SEAL freind of mine, who would have definately been in a position to know, told me it was there.
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There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. I believe one is used for each direction, one going in and one coming out. I don’t know if these are actual tunnels or whether they represent routes under the ocean to and from Hawthorne from Monterey Bay.

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Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if any SEA SALT could be detected in the water…..
NOTE : Unlikely. Lake Tahoe is 6200 ft. above mean sea level. If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level.
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Gotrox :

I wonder about the Moho discontinuity—-an area below the surface that seems to deflect/bend seismic Waves in a way that geologists and seismologists haven’t really been able to explain. It is found throughout the vast majority of the planet. Though quite far down ( + – 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible.
I would post links, but it is all over the place, and I find it much better to do your own searching and reach your own conclusions.
Just type “moho discontinuity” into any search engine.

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As far as the “tubes” go, John, I have no doubt they exist, courtesy of nuclear tunnel boring machines that leave glass walls in their wake. I didn’t know they were Navy, though now you mention it, it makes sense.

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Underground Oceans

Very interesting John. Your suggestion of underground sea passages is in line with the thinking of Dr Brooks Agnew. He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : ” Hollow Earth Expedition” http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm

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Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by “ZORGON”


One of the points made particularly in THIS thread is about the underground TUBES The high speed transit tubes. Now I saw someone mention about the Nuclear powered TBM’s that melt rock…
Well you don’t believe John…
SoWould you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972?Would you believe Department of Defense documents that back up the Rand Corporation?

Would you believe Patents filed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy for three Atomic TBM’s? In 1972?

Would you believe people are so blind that they still don’t get it even when its REPORTED in the LA Times in 1972?

Well if THAT isn’t enough documentation on just ONE of the things John says, then there is no help for you and please feel free to laugh it up

And don’t give me that nonsense about “Just because they issued a patent doesn’t mean…”

BS!!! Just pick up the phone and call the DOE or Los Alamos… just be prepared to answer WHY you want to know

The documents are all here… if your afraid the site will bite… too bad… its where I store all the data and can organize it at MY expense and not use other peoples bandwidth