I read all of the information that you posted and appreciated your work and the work of the Phoenix Report but I don’t believe it. It doesn’t add up to me and I won’t explain why. You may be right and I’m wrong. I hope I am wrong in this case. That’s all folks.
John Winston.
First, that was not my work, nor did I have anything to do with it. Someone uploaded that material to ParaNet and I simply reposted it with permission. I have found numerous problems with it myself and, although I do not necessarily believe that something is happening at Dulce, I think that the Phoenix material is just more disinformation…
Mike
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Subject: Rating on Dulce Report and K2 Report
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Recently we published two reports generated by the Phoenix Project, a group in Carson City, Nevada. These two documents allege that members of this group investigated reports of underground alien bases in Dulce, New Mexico, and an underground alien base located in the Plumas National Forest in Northern California.
(Note: Basically their investigation ‘proved‘ that the Dulce base did NOT exist, but that the ‘K2’ UFO base in California DID! Why do I get the feeling that IF the K2 base DOES in fact exist, then we should not be too concerned about it? Could it be that there is an actual alien force based in the Plumes National Forest that is CONTESTING the activities at Dulce? Just remember that for every visible conflict, there is often an invisible conflict taking place behind the scenes. Often the ‘pawns‘ cannot see who the real “chess players” are. – Branton)
Because of the following findings/reasons, ParaNet has assigned a high level of probability that the material contained in the documents is disinformation and is inaccurate.
The reasons are as follows:
- The Phoenix Project is unknown to the general UFO research community. Nowhere in any of the materials are the principals of the organization identified. As is the case with any materials where substantive findings are reported, it demonstrates a strong lack of credibility when the names and addresses of the investigators are not provided.
- Due to an investigation that has been ongoing, we have found that the material on Dulce is inaccurate. It is interesting that the Dulce report denies that ANYTHING exists at Dulce. Although we have found no information to the contrary, we feel that the report from the Phoenix Project is inaccurate as to the location of buildings and other factors. There are things down there which ARE unusual.
- The K2 material is too ambiguous and does not provide enough reliable data bits to launch an investigation into the claims. It appears that although the report is written with some literary license, the findings are presented in a very unscientific fashion.
ParaNet will provide a complete report of its investigation into the various other claims contained in the reports as soon as the information is available. We have written to the Phoenix Project requesting further information.
In the meantime, we urge caution in the use of this material.
Michael Corbin
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Subject: STRONG WORD OF CAUTION!
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Over the last few days, we have been posting information supplied by the Phoenix Project of Carson City, Nevada. This information has been strongly disclaimed by ParaNet pending the results of our investigation to determine the validity of the Phoenix Project and its officers.
While the investigation is still ongoing, we have found some highly disturbing things relating to the credibility of the group. This information will be reported as soon as the investigation is completed. This should be in the next few days.
Until this investigation is complete and the findings published, ParaNet wishes to urge everyone not to send any money to the group.
Michael Corbin
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Subject: Report on Phoenix Project
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A few weeks ago, ParaNet received on-line copies of several documents which purported to come from a previously unknown organization called “The Phoenix Project“. The project is described in the documents as a “private, civilian, research organization” which was “formed in 1952 to investigate and correlate information” concerning UFOs and ETs. According to the information contained in the documents, for a small price, one can receive printed copies of the project’s reports, complete with maps, magnetometer readings, and a host of other supporting charts and diagrams which serve to make the whole endeavor look scientific and legitimate.
The documents we received were formulated as investigative reports on two of the hottest and most controversial issues within the UFO research community: the underground alien bases which are said to exist at numerous locations around the United States, and the cluster of alleged UFO-related projects sometimes referred to collectively as “Operation Majestic Twelve“. Specifically, the material consisted of three separate documents: