J: We have to do it. There’s, technologies out there that exist that are secret, free energy, where we don’t have to derive so much from our environment. And these technologies are in the possession of these Black Op secret organizations, who in their view, and in their eyes, sanctioned or not – most of them are sanctioned – that they are doing this for the defense and the security of our nation, and other free nations. I’m not just being selfish and saying the United States, but we do, we’re up there pretty much at the top with this stuff, okay?

And these things need to be cut loose because we do have the global warming. We do have problems with the rain forest. We do have a problem with pollution in the ocean. And I can go on and on and on with our environmental woes. So these things need to be freed up. Now, in the eyes of these beings that are extremely intelligent and have a lot of experience and have made something very clear. Create an amnesty vehicle where because there is a growing majority in this Black Op or secret government stuff that wants to come forward with this information and these technologies. Quite frankly, they don’t wanna die bringing it forward. They don’t want to be executed, they don’t want to be charged, as unfortunately people have been discredited, murdered, maimed, for the sake of national security, innocent law-abiding citizens, many over the last particularly 40 to 60 years, 50 to 60 years, them coming forward in any way shape or form. Let’s be practical here.

Oh, you’re responsible for my father’s death. Oh, you’re responsible for my aunt’s death. Oh, you’re responsible for this and that, because all that stuff is gonna have to come out with it. These people can’t be touched. They’re gonna have to be able to… they’re gonna have to have a vehicle to come forward 100 per cent and I hate to use the word “forgive”, but have to be forgiven and forgotten, so these technologies can come out to save us, and aid in saving us from what we’re doing to this planet.

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Now. One hands-on project that is particularly… it’s like an assignment for me, and others, but for myself is the rain forest project. Now why do I say the rain forest? It’s the lungs of the planet, it’s the internal organs of the planet. It’s how she’s able to cleanse and recycle herself. And we’ve done a lot of damage to her. And now we’re injuring the internal organs. Global warming is just a part of it. But the rain forest is extremely important because it’s something that we can see, we can see it regress or digress. We can see it expand and come back out again, and healthy. A hands-on project without on a global basis in short, where we can really see what we’re doing, where the whole world gets involved, is something that needs to be accomplished.

Once it’s accomplished, then we can all know in this globe that there is something we can do as a species, as a whole, all six billion of us, or however many get involved to actually change something so extreme as to where we are going. Which will make it easier to tackle these other challenges. Now, as a species, when they fly by and they look down at us, what they see is a hornet’s nest. You have hornets that live a very short life span, you have hornets that are eating and killing each other. You have hornets that are fighting each other and you’re looking at hornets that cannot get their act together and never have.

B: And they don’t seem to give a damn about the nest.

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J: And they don’t understand. So the hornets have to face themselves. Not that they’re not willing to aid. Remember, these people, these beings, these things, and this is a strong point I’m making here, have been, for tens of thousands of years, if not hundreds of thousands, intervening in any way shape or form, to bring us to evolving. What has been determined, everything under the book has been tried, under the sun, under under the stars. And we’re still the same, it’s our nature. We have to do it ourselves.

B: Is the future set, or are we only talking about probabilities?

J: If you let the river run, it will run its course and it’s set. You can change the course of a river, but what I’ve learned over the years is, and I’ve discussed this with you on the side, that I’m learning as I go, the butterfly theory couldn’t be any more the opposite. If you put time in a river sense, which is more ambiguous and complex than that, but if you put it in a sense of a strong flowing river, in order to alter a very mighty and powerful river that’s gonna run its course and you know where it’s gonna go, it take a tremendous amount of energy to make the slightest change. So if you let the river go naturally, the flow of time will keep going.

B: Where is the river headed right now?

J: Well, it’s not a straight line.

B: Okay (chuckles) – good answer. But is it heading in a general direction? Are you optimistic?

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J: I know I’m optimistic about the part as I said earlier, that a handful relative to the population on the planet now, survive all the upcoming environmental garbage. Only about a handful, relatively speaking. And then past that, we evolve and repopulate.

Now I know the technology, and I’m not saying I claim I can build a time machine, but I’ve see the technology several times, more than once, and experienced their technology several times, more than once, in many different ways, face to face, of us even coming back from the future, in my face. It’s amazing how this thing has evolved from the horror the first six years, and then to an interaction that’s fantastic.

However, and it’s the same thing: yeah, we make it, but not all of us do before we get there. What do we want to see? We want to see all of us, if not most of us, at least get past that point. This is a very hard thing to do because A, it’s hard to change the river of time. It’s strong, it’s resilient, it wants to snap back. Time, and time once set, wants to stay there.. but it can be [changed]. So unfortunately, we’re on a pretty screwed up course, which is self-destruction with our planet.

B: Have you been shown a possible future or a probable future as some kind of a warning? It’s like, you know, this is where we’re heading if we don’t change this river. Have you been shown something like this?

 

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