1995: Transcript of V.L.’s Custer

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer, South Dakota Meeting in August 1995. This is a transcript from a tape of a talk that he gave regarding his 12 years at Area 51. V.L. is an upstanding citizen, a gentleman, and speaks the truth, this we assure you. I spent from June of 1965 to August of 1977 directly on the Nevada Test Site, worked there full time. I was Radiation – Health and Safety. Most of the time I worked there, I either worked for Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, Lawrence Radiation Laboratory out of Livermore, Berkeley rather, California or Sandia Corporation out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. All those testing laboratories have since changed their names. Lawrence Radiation Laboratory is now the Lawrence National Laboratory, they don’t […] Read More

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer 2

As far as Area 51 goes, I have a lot of friends that work at the test site, still. Area 51 is the most secured area in the United States. Area 51 happens to sit in a place where, as I said, security has to be absolutely tight because it’s nothing but desert, government public lands, it’s secured public land. A lot of what goes on in Area 51 goes on at night so the Russian satellites can’t see what’s going on. That’s why people from time to time see things. It’s a fascinating place. If any of you have questions of me I’ll either answer them or I won’t but I’ll tell you upfront whether I can tell you about it or not. […] Read More

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer 3

Answer: No. I’ll tell you why, folks. I don’t know if any of you have been to Leavenworth, Kansas or not but that’s where the federal prison is. It’s hot, it’s humid and I have no desire whatsoever to go. I still have a real, legitimate respect for the Department of Defense security. When you leave out there they debrief you. And the debriefing lasted quite a few hours, the better part of a day and the bottom line was – don’t talk or else. That was the bottom line. And they gave you a list of things not to talk about. I have not violated any of those this afternoon. Since I left out there, I don’t believe I ever have. I’m very […] Read More

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer 4

Answer: It’s always helpful to a nation to have an enemy. Question: Between Teller and Oppenheimer, what’s your opinion about Oppenheimer…… Answer: Openheimer was railroaded, he was ruined because of the paranoia that was going on during that time. Robert Oppenheimer to me was a hero in the scientific community and the man’s life was ruined because of paranoia. Question: Teller was kind of a political puppet. Answer: Edward Teller was the kind of man that would have been loyal to Adolph Hitler or to whoever was the boss, so to speak. I didn’t like the man, I still don’t like the man. He’s arrogant, he was totally unsympathetic to radiation health and safety, he was totally unsympathetic to people’s lives and he still […] Read More

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer 5

There was some concern about the transference of power during that time from the election to January 27 or whenever it was, January 20th, the inauguration took place. There’s been some pretty scary things happen. The only reason I knew about it is I worked out there. There would be times when we’d be put on alert, security alert, for reasons that were beyond me. There were times when things went the other way. Before we set Box Car off, I called home that morning and told my wife to put a bowl of water on the kitchen table, now this was 160 miles away, I lived in Las Vegas. I said watch it, zero time is at 5 o’clock. I called from the […] Read More

Transcript of V.L.’s Custer 6

Your brain is interpreting color, different wavelengths and I call it green and I call it brown. We mostly all agree on these things, generally speaking, but we all see different things. There is no color. So you have to stop and think about crazy things you see in the sky at night that may or not be unexplainable. To someone else may be very common, very explainable, and very ordinary. I’m just about to walk over the edge here . . . they may not be . . . if you were to see a person, you may not recognize that person as someone you thought might live on the face of this planet. And that’s all I’ll say about that, I swore […] Read More