Andrew Collins (AC): I mean I’m a writer. I’m a researcher and, you know, I can find the information where I need it and when I need it; and in recent times I have been seriously going into quantum science, quantum theory, particularly the work of the theoretical physicist David Bohm, who was onto the whole idea of multidimensional experiences, in connection with the medium that we call plasma.
I’m not suggesting the fourth dimension is a separate place, like the earth, or our physical dimension is a place that exists and you can travel from A to B. I think what is referred to as the fourth dimension is something that is created as and when necessary. In other words, the dimension beyond the three norms of space and one of time, unfurl, uncurl into existence when necessary…
The cutting edge work that is going on at the moment seems to suggest we that might be looking at quite separate life forms existing within plasma environments. Now, where do they come from if they just suddenly exist? Well, I think that they are interpenetrating through the plasma from something that’s beyond normal space/time, some kind of higher dimensional realm and as I say, this might sound complete, you know, New Age or kooky. It’s not.
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Kerry Cassidy (KC): Hi, I’m Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and I am here with Andrew Collins and we are at Megalithomania in South Africa, and I’m very happy to be able to interview Andrew. I have been trying to catch up with him for quite some time and we are going to have some thunderstorm activity in the background, so if you hear some rolling thunder you will know what is going on and it’s all good. So what I would like to do here is, Andrew, have you sort of give yourself an introduction and talk about what brought you into this whole subject area, really go back to even your childhood if necessary and give us a little personal background.
AC: Well, I think I probably began my interest in UFOs when I was a child. I had an interest in aircraft and I saw a strange ball of light in the sky one day, and I thought that this was actually more interesting than the aircraft that I was trying, you know, to view and spot at that time. So I started to read what I could, and as a child, there wasn’t that much around, and then other interests took over my life and it wasn’t until I started work at the age of sixteen that I started gorging paperbacks on UFOs from the likes of Brad Steiger, Jacques Vallee, John Keel, people like this. And, it almost took over my life really, because I wanted to get close to the subject.
I wanted to, you know, to communicate with these entities and so I became a UFO investigator with the British UFO Research Association. I started interviewing people that had seen things. And that’s where it all began, and very quickly I realized obviously that 90 percent of all UFO sightings have some kind of explanation. But those that didn’t were very interested, because the people involved seemed to have certain characteristics which were similar to each other, not just personalities, but they often seemed to be psychic, they often seemed to have physiological traits in common. They would have past lives that were quite similar, and I started to look more at this rather than the actual phenomena itself, because I felt that the people were the key to the phenomena, as much as what they were seeing. And as all this was taking place the type of cases I was covering were getting more and more involved, you know, close encounters at first, close encounters of the second kind, and finally close encounters of the third kind, and even fourth. And until eventually, in 1977, when I was aged 20, I was lucky enough to be put in touch with the first-ever witnesses to an abduction in the UK.
This was a family by the name of Day, D-A-Y, from West Essex; that’s just outside of Greater London, and they were going along a road at night, a short journey, they saw an oval blue light crossing in front of them, and they, you know, they saw this and accepted it as a UFO. It disappeared and they turned the corner and the car headlights failed, they could no longer hear the tires. The engine failed. And in front of them, this luminous bank of green mist, glowing green mist, and they plowed into that and everything went completely hazy. The next thing they know they are three-quarters of a mile farther along on the road and they get home from this short journey, to find three hours are missing from their lives.
The whole case was investigated over about a year, a long period and the standard onboard scenario came out during hypnosis, and this really sort of set the standard in the UK. Before that time it was only really foreign cases, like Betty and Barney Hill, and Herb Schrimer, 1974, that happened in the USA, plus there were a few really strange cases obviously from South America.
And this really primed me, I think. This was at the point where I really started to write about UFOs. And I also realized that there was a paranormal and psychic element here because the family changed dramatically after the encounter. They became vegetarians, started seeing auras, to see energies out of sight. Also, strange apparitions, tall dark figures seen at night. And I can confirm that this was real because on more than one occasion, I saw poltergeist activity or heard it, I should say, going on when I was on my own and downstairs one night, sleeping overnight there.
KC: You actually went there to investigate.