AC: We can only challenge what is basically unseen. I mean, this word “inevitability” is very important in defining what reality is. It’s inevitable that if I go outside into the auditorium I’m going to meet certain people. It’s inevitable that one day I’m going to die and that in itself creates the framework of reality: it’s inevitable. That which is not inevitable I think can be changed.

I mean, for instance, if I talked about Nikola Tesla and said that a psychic said to me: “Oh, he had a secret diary.” Now, there is a possibility that he didn’t keep a secret diary but the sheer fact that a group of people starts believing that he did, could, I believe, influence him back in time to start one up. So that when you start looking into the evidence for it, you eventually find it and then that will be the confirmation of that reality.

KC: OK, that’s a very interesting way of looking at reality, for sure. There is no doubt that in some ways the future does influence the past and vice versa and this moment and I assume you do… in some philosophies, they would say there is nothing but else but the now, ultimately. That our view of time, future, past and present is actually that linear thing is actually circular and simultaneous so in essence we are always in the now. This philosophy or theory that you are expounding here has every possibility of being true, right. And I’ve also talked…You know this is probably crazy to even bring into this interview, Jack Sarfatti is a physicist and is quite well known, apparently you know of his work he often talks of the idea that the future influences the present and the past. We had a dialogue on email at one point in which I said that I have a theory that sometimes when I wake up in the morning, that I can tell what that day is going to be like, because I can tell by looking at my face what my reaction to the day was. In other words, it has already happened.

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AC: Absolutely, yes.

KC: So it’s fascinating.

AC: Yeah you’ve got it. And, I mean, there are various scientific experiments that are being done to see if we can influence the future, projecting the mind forward let’s say a day or a year to try in influence instrumentation. And I’ve tried this with a group myself and it seems to work. That’s the bizarre thing so it’s not that difficult to influence the future, you know, and that’s…

The trouble is that in a way it is worrying and disturbing because it starts evoking ideas that all the monsters that we thought existed when we were kids, you know, which worried us when the lights are out. And yet our parents tell us: “No, everything’s okay, it’s all fine.” Maybe they just do exist or can exist on occasions and I think that the Large Hadron Collider, the team behind that announced recently that they would have evidence of higher dimensions within the year.

For them to have made that statement, it means that they must have some kind of foundation. You know, in other words, they have already got results. Because otherwise, they might as well say, you know, we’re going to bring evidence that the moon is made of green cheese within a year.

KC: Right.

AC: Clearly they have already got something and when that evidence is presented, then a lot of people are going to be worried about reality, because what scientists tell us could happen when other dimensions come into play is going to make the world very wobbly and it will be up to, you know almost a skeptic to say, you know, “Look, no don’t worry, this and that and the other is not going to happen, because you know, although those monsters can exist, they can only exist on special occasions,” basically.

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They will not exist all the time, you know, because reality is the mutable but to be honest, as I said, that word “inevitability” is important. You know, it is inevitable that if I try and run through that wall I’m going to get hurt, and that’s it. It’s when things are not inevitable that they can be changed.

KC: Okay, well I have to say though if you watched Men Who Stare at Goats you know that you can eventually, if you get your mind in the right framework, run through that wall and not be hurt.

AC: I think I would probably hurt myself if I tried.

KC: So it’s not inevitable.

AC: Yes.

KC: …and that’s where we…

AC: Yes. But you see where I’m coming from. It’s not just a case of believing you can warp reality. You know, it’s a case of doing so in a way, which is un-evitable, you know. In other words, you have to take out the fixed reality to do it. This is what I said about the Tesla thought experiment there.

KC: Well you have to also, I would say, there has to be… reality is an agreement, okay.

AC: Yes.

KC: Among us, okay.

AC: Yes, exactly.

KC: And so that walking through that wall at this moment on this plane that we exist here with this plant and so on and so forth.

AC: Yes.

KC: In other words we are working in this construct.

AC: Yes, exactly.

KC: As souls, nonphysical entities that are manifesting here for a purpose in game field that we have agreed upon. And if we decide to change the field itself, that is going to take a lot of us to do, probably.

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AC: Absolutely.

KC: There needs to be linkups…

AC: Absolutely.

KC: …that will detonate that sort of power [unclear: form], and we are working on changing the consciousness to make that possible.

AC: Yes.

KC: In other words to make peace possible, for example, in this game construct.

AC: Yes. Well this why I say that we have to be careful about what we believe, because what we believe can come true. You know, if we believe that the future of the human race will be will be enslaved by this and that aliens, that could well happen. But if we see that the phenomena and the intelligences behind UFOs in a much more positive light, we can change that, because it is not inevitable that we are going to be enslaved yet. So we can change the future.

KC: Okay. All right Andrew Collins we are going to have to continue this at a later date, but thank you very much. You are a very interesting individual, and I enjoyed talking with you.

AC: My pleasure.

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