Category: Project Beta

SM: You say there are people who have witnessed cattle mutilations taking place? GB: No, they haven’t witnessed the actual mutilation but they’ve seen people who don’t have access to helicopters and stealth technology and radios and all this wandering around near a cattle mutilation. Not actually killing it. They’ve seen people in robes and there’s candles there and stuff they find afterwards. There have been witnesses out there that have seen humans around cattle that have been killed and mutilated. SM: So you’re talking about copycats. GB: Yeah copycats or opportunistic people. Somebody who’s made some blood sacrifice for something or other. It gets a lot weirder than that when I got into it with Chris O’Brien on my radio show. SM: Another […] Read More

GB: Any sense of whether that race is benign or aggressive? SM: I didn’t ask him about that but from what I can tell, I asked him if it bothered him and he said no. If there was something that was endangering the human race associated with it, he probably would have couched it in different terms. I don’t think anybody, even abduction researchers think that. Abduction researchers think they’re here to take all of our DNA and impregnate our women etc. That may be true but they seem to be the only ones saying that. I think the government for its part, I think they know what’s going on but they’re still confused about it. They’re more knowledgeable but they are knowledgeably confused! […] Read More

SM: I’ve got to say, that certainly was. The way you described that and the way they got round the problems with that was absolutely brilliant. GB: But I think he said that to answer my question that I’d asked two days before. He didn’t answer me then. He answered it in this oblique way when we driving around the actual base. SM: So it sounds like with these people that they have to think very carefully, they actually have to go away and think about an answer to the question. They sound like they’re being helpful but they don’t give you a direct response. GB: I don’t think they go away and think about it. I think they know exactly what they’re doing […] Read More

SM: You do, in the book and probably inadvertently, paint an extremely comical image of the intelligence agencies walking into Bennewitz’s house the moment he walked out. This ridiculous situation of even Doty being in there once and the orange orbs and Doty turns round and says, “Are those ours?” It’s almost like they were tripping over each other. GB: The thing about the orbs was; who knows what they were? Bill saw them too. Doty either doesn’t know what they were or he isn’t telling. I talked to him for about almost 3 hours one time, on the phone sporadically here and there. but mostly in this interview in this restaurant. I think he’s an old intelligence guy – he doesn’t like talking […] Read More

GB: It fits in, in that it was part of the deal he had made. He kept tabs on people, reported on what they were thinking and their opinions and what they knew at the time, what kind of reports they were investigating and what rumours were making the rounds in the UFO field. In return he got documents and the block buster was the Eisenhower briefing document saying there was a group of 12 people convened by Harry Truman in 1947 to deal with the UFO subject. Bill now thinks that document is probably false or mostly false. At the time he had no idea. People said he championed the idea of it being true throughout the late 80s and through the 90s […] Read More

GB: Yes he did. Let me back up a little bit about Bill. It’s very hard for me to come in and condemn Bill because for one thing, I’ve seen what’s happened from that lecture on and what people have said and his attempts to explain himself and them not listening because most people, especially if you’re highly emotional about it are not going to be listening to what’s coming out of your mouth. Whatever you say is going to be interpreted the way you want to hear it when it comes into your consciousness. That happens with everyone. If you’ve ever been in a relationship then you know that! The point with Bill is, and as this isn’t a radio interview so I […] Read More

SM: What drew you to write the book? What attracted you to write up Paul Bennewitz’s life? GB: It was one of 4 or 5 proposals I sent out and that was the one that Simon and Shuster wanted. The other main reason was that I had a personal connection because I have known Bill Moore since 1988 which is kind of late in the game, but it was the year before he made his announcement in Las Vegas that freaked everybody out and that really affected me because I was there at that conference. I was sitting at Bill’s table helping him sell books and things and he wouldn’t tell me what he was going to talk about. He said that it was […] Read More

Some of the things he said in that letter, that there were two races, the Ebans and the Sweads, that’s the kind of stuff that’s taken directly from 1950s contactee mythology or whatever you want to call it. Whether there are Aryan white skinned space brothers coming and telling us that we’re destroying ourselves is still an open question to me. They capitalised on that and got him going on that and I believe some of these same people were also talking to John Lear, Bill Cooper and people like that after Bennewitz to keep that mythology going because it allowed them to keep track of how their rumours had spread, and like I said before, who was interested in it. And if people […] Read More