Considerable Evidence Supporting His Claims
Evidence supporting his claims is considerable. In addition to his claiming Naval Intelligence work at S4 (15 miles southwest of Area 51) from late 1988 to early 1989, Robert Lazar claimed to have worked at the Meson Physics lab, a part of the Los Alamos National Laboratories. The FBI is still dragging its feet in investigating his employment there, even though former Nevada Congressman James Bilbray asked it to investigate over four years ago. Evidently, FBI agents are still scratching their heads, wondering how to both deny his employment at Los Alamos and explain why his name is in an old telephone directory of Los Alamos scientists.
An article by staff writer Terry England in the June 27, 1982 edition of the Los Alamos Monitor, which shows a picture of Lazar standing next to a jet car and refers to his employment as a scientist with Los Alamos, is also hard to explain. Two-dozen odd Los Alamos employees told former KLAS-TV anchor George Knapp that they remembered Lazar. Some of them said that they had been warned not to talk about Lazar and that they were afraid to talk about him. Four of them, though, confirmed for Knapp that Lazar had been working on classified projects there.
After denying Lazar’s employment there since 1989, Los Alamos in April 1994 finally changed its story and said that he had been employed there. Knapp also talked to former employees of the super-secret Groom Lake base, who corroborated Lazar’s description of such details as how one gets to the base dining room, what the dining room looks like, and how one pays for meals there.
It’s extremely unlikely that an outsider would know such information.
Bob Lazar and His Jet Car
A respected, no-nonsense reporter, Knapp has a master’s degree in communications and has won AP and UPI awards for his quality UFO journalism. He accepts Lazar’s story because too much of it checks out. In 1989, Lazar passed a lie-detector test arranged by Knapp. At MUFON’s 1992 Midwest Conference in Springfield, Missouri, Knapp presented further strong evidence of Lazar’s credibility. Lazar had mentioned that a man by the name of Mike Thigpen had visited his house and interviewed him in connection with his S4 employment. Kristen Merck and Mrs. Wayne Higdon, two witnesses who happened to be at Lazar’s house, confirmed Thigpen’s visit. Knapp rhetorically asks, “How did Bob Lazar know the name, Mike Thigpen?”
The Department of Energy confirmed for Knapp that the Office of Federal Investigations (OFI … whose phone number is not even listed in Las Vegas phone books) performs background checks on people who get clearances to work at the Nevada Test Site or at Nellis AFB. An employee of OFI called Knapp and confirmed that Thigpen worked for OFI. How did Lazar know that Thigpen did background checks? It took Knapp phone calls, friendly insider governmental contacts, and all his award-winning investigative skills before he found out who Thigpen was. The W-2 form Naval Intelligence mailed Lazar is hard to explain away as well. Knapp has examined this W-2 form, and copies of it have been seen on TV. Further boosting Lazar’s credibility, John Andrews, plastic kit division manager of the Testor Corporation, found out that the U.S. Postal Service sends mail with the zip code NIC-01, the code on Lazar’s W-2 form, to Naval Intelligence Command in Maryland.
Bob Lazar’s W2 Form from the United States Department of Naval Intelligence
Also hard to explain away is the unusual response the State of Nevada received when it requested documents about Lazar from the federal government. The reply said that information on Bob Lazar was on a need-to-know basis, and you don’t need to know. This kind of reply is consistent with Lazar’s having had a high-security clearance.
Further Supporting Evidence
On October 17, 1993, Knapp, after recently returning from his trip to Russia, gave some news on Art Bell’s Area 2000 radio show. Knapp’s contact in Russia was a general who reported directly to the Russian counterpart of the Pentagon’s chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Knapp said that in the Summer of 1988, a Soviet spy satellite took pictures of the Papoose Lake area. One of the photos shows roads that lead into nearby hills where Lazar said the discs were stored. Parked busses with blacked-out windows are shown near the hanger area (In early interviews, Lazar had specifically mentioned being transported from Groom Lake to S4 in busses with blacked-out windows).
Satellite Photo of Flying Disc at S4
Before May 1989 (the date of Lazar’s first appearance on KLAS-TV), Soviet satellites took only one or two photos of S4 a month, but after that date, they took them daily. For sale at sky-high prices, the photos are cataloged according to date, time, and satellite.
Blowup of Satellite Photo of Flying Disc at S4
Coordinates of Area S4: N 37o 01′ 40″, W 115o 46′ 35″
Image of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc Cutaway View of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc
Blowup Cutaway of the “Sport Model” Flying Disc
Antimatter Reaction and Gravity Amplification
On several local Las Vegas radio shows and on Chuck Harder’s national For the People radio show, Lazar has answered questions on the propulsion system of flying saucers, or “discs” as our government calls them. According to documents Lazar read at S4, discs fly by amplifying gravitational waves. Gravity is actually two waves, identified as gravity A and Gravity B. Gravity A is at the atomic level. That is, the wave does not extend beyond the molecular bond except in Element 115 (super-heavy trans-Uranic element with 115 protons).
This slight extension allows the wave to be accessed and amplified. Gravity A is currently called the strong nuclear force. The propulsion system is an antimatter reactor. In the disc Lazar crawled inside, the reactor was a sphere, about the size of a medicine ball. The top half of it was visible in the middle of the floor. Fuel for the reactor is Element 115, UnUnPentium. On a Periodic Table, UnUnPentium, a super-heavy metal, would be listed as UUP. It has a melting point of 1,740 degrees Celsius. When it is bombarded with protons, it becomes Element 116, an element that gives off anti-matter. In the reactor, there is an annihilation reaction between matter and anti-matter.